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AB 60, Foreign License, Permit or None: Listing a Mixed Household on One Policy

Quick answerInsurers ask about everyone of driving age who lives with you. A California license — AB 60, standard or REAL ID — is handled the same way; a foreign license, a learner's permit, a suspended license or no license at all each gets handled differently, and that handling varies by insurance company. The one thing that never works is leaving off someone who drives the car.

Many households we quote look like this: a father with an AB 60 license, a mother with a license from Mexico, an adult son with a permit, an uncle who stays with them and has no license, and a cousin whose license is suspended. Every one of them is a question on the application. Here is how each is usually answered.

Why the company asks about everyone

People who live together usually have access to the same keys. Rates in California are built first on driving safety record, annual mileage and years of driving experience (Insurance Code section 1861.02(a)), so the company needs to know whose record, miles and experience it is insuring.

The household, person by person

LicenseHow commonly listedWhat you'll be asked forWhat varies
California license (AB 60, standard or REAL ID)Rated driverLicense number, name and date of birth as printedNothing tied to the card type; the record is what is rated
Foreign licenseRated driverCountry, license number, issue dateWhether years abroad count as experience
Learner's permitListed, or noted until licensedPermit number and dateWhen the company wants the permit holder added
Suspended or revoked licenseExcluded, or listedName, date of birth, license numberWhether it will keep the policy with that person in the home
No licenseNon-driver or excludedName and date of birthWhether a non-driver must be named at all

Three rules that apply whatever the company

Exclusions: the line people sign without reading

Excluding someone by name is allowed under Insurance Code section 11580.1, and once the named insured signs, it is conclusive: the excluded person has no coverage driving that car. That suits a relative who truly never drives. It does not suit the cousin who "only moves it for street sweeping."

When someone's license changes

A permit becomes a license, a foreign license expires, a suspension ends, an AB 60 card arrives in the mail, someone moves in or out. Each of these is a change to report in writing, with the date. An exclusion stays in force until it is removed by endorsement, whatever has happened to the person's license.

What usually works

  1. Before you call, write a list of every adult at the address with the kind of license each one holds.
  2. Say who drives which car, and how often.
  3. When the declarations page arrives, read the driver section aloud against your list.

Bring the list and start a quote here; we will tell you how each company we use would handle your household.

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More of what callers ask

Is an AB 60 license rated differently from a REAL ID?

No. The card type is not one of the rating factors California allows. Your driving record, mileage and years of experience are what count.

My mother lives with us but doesn't drive. Does she go on the policy?

The company will ask about her. Depending on the company, she may be listed as a non-driver or excluded by name. Say plainly that she does not drive.

My nephew has a learner's permit. Do I have to add him?

It varies by company. Ask before he practices in your car, so you know how the company treats permit holders.